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FrostyJack
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I've always thought of Keane as a good striker. Not a brilliant striker, just a good striker. But for some reason I think Keane is going to be something special at Anfield.
Is it misguided optimism? Probably, but there is just something about a Torres/Keane partnership that has me..well for want of a better word drooling.
30 goals from Torres 20 from Keane. The work rate that both these players can produce is going to have defenders run ragged. Unless RB plays one up and rotates. If you were Keane would you leave Spurs to spend half a season on the bench regardless of your love for LFC.
So Rafa buy Keane and for the love of Mike play 2 up front. Rotate whoever the hell else you want but leave the forward line alone.
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skippy
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Keane is going to be a cracking signing (hopefully). He has plenty of premiership experience and I believe he will prove a real success for us. At last a decent player who isn't a lightweight and won't get pushed around by the likes of Terry and Ferdinand. Even better if we play both Torres and Keane together neither of whom will get bullied.
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Juan
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Keane is a good player but has the potential to be top drawer if surrounded by the likes of gerrard and torres on a daily basis.
He is a good honest hard working striker that has bundles of skill and is very capable of producing some unexpected moments of magic. The only reservation I would have about him is his consistency, he does seem to go through barren spells but he would surely take the scoring burden off torres and gerrard.
I wouldnt get carried away with the thoughts of Torres and Keane scoring 50 goals between them though. Of course with both players scoring records the potential is there for that and more but 50 is alot. I just feel Keane could possibly give a whole new dimension to our attack.
Also I it still allows Rafa to play a 4-4-2 or the 4-2-3-1 with Keane playing behind torres.
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FrostyJack
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if Keane and Berbatov can get 46 in all competitions for Spurs why is it inconceivable that Torres and Keane would get 50??
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Tes
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if Keane and Berbatov can get 46 in all competitions for Spurs why is it inconceivable that Torres and Keane would get 50??
I think it's less about total numbers than it is about having more potential goalscorers to get that second goal that we sometimes found so elusive last season and also about having less reliance on Torres and Gerrard finding the net.
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FrostyJack
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Point taken Tes but I would like to think that those elusive goals are in that 50 somewhere and not just scored against Manu, Chelsea and Arsenal  although that might be nice too. Aw bloody hell when does the football start. All this might be talk is killing me. There should only be a 2 week break in the summer
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Juan
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if Keane and Berbatov can get 46 in all competitions for Spurs why is it inconceivable that Torres and Keane would get 50??
Frostyjack I dont think its inconceiveable that Torres and Keane score 50 goals, as I said I think they would be very capable of scoring 50 and maybe they will. But Im just saying dont expect it. After the success of his first season torres may find he has less space this year because teams now know what hes about and he may get preferential marking treatment by defences. What I do think though no matter how many goals either striker get, having both Keane and torres on the pitch will certainly free up some space for some other players to get some goals and I could definitley see both players also providing a few aswell.
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martin
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 Martin, i don't 'hate' SG, or indeed any player.
the ability of veronin and SG to play together, above, was my attempt at humour.
I admire SG, for his contributions....but I've just never been caught up in the hyperbole. And that is what it is. When have you ever, at any point, seen an objective analysis of his performances. He has immense stamina and strength of character. But I've always felt that he's one of those type of players who disrupts our flow. Other lads don't get a fair crack to shine.
I could break it down into various traits (which I have done in the past). I'm happy to have him at Anfield. But he's not the God that the english media make him out to be. Indeed when he was out for a month or two, 2 or 3 years ago, the data actually showed that we won more points per game in his absense. When we played away at Fulham last season, we were far more fluent, in his absence.
He's a very good player, but that's it.
No worries re us disagreeing on SG, mate. Good debate makes life a lot more interesting. It would be terribly boring if we all agreed on everything.
It's ok Dude, I respect your right to have an opinion and all, and it does make it interesting if it remains civil thus maintaining longevity in our posts! I think the thing is that if you remember how you felt about King Kenny in his pomp, well that's how I feel about Steven Gerrard. I'll understand if you go nuts with me comparing the 2 and you are in a better position to compare them as I wasn't really old enough to appreciate him then, although I have seen videos, but nevertheless it is how i feel so forgive me if the keys start tapping when I hear someone who laments his existence at LFC. The same age roughly as Stevie, I've grown up absolutely loving watching the guy play and I can't forget the times where he has brought us back from the brink of despair and been instrumental in those latter wins. It is a simple, objective fact that there wouldn't be a 2005 CL trophy or FA Cup in the cabinet had it not been for Stevie G. Edward, no offence intended mate, but you say the jury's out until we win the league but who can forget the goal against olympiakos or that against west ham which were as crucial as they could be. If Torres scores 30 goals a season until the day he leaves and we don't win the league, does that mean the jury's still out on him as well? It is my opinion and we'll leave it at that but for me he is the greatest player to have donned a reds shirt this era, even better than 'god' - Robbie, and I can't begin to describe how much I loved him!
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martin
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I've always thought of Keane as a good striker. Not a brilliant striker, just a good striker. But for some reason I think Keane is going to be something special at Anfield.
Is it misguided optimism? Probably, but there is just something about a Torres/Keane partnership that has me..well for want of a better word drooling.
30 goals from Torres 20 from Keane. The work rate that both these players can produce is going to have defenders run ragged. Unless RB plays one up and rotates. If you were Keane would you leave Spurs to spend half a season on the bench regardless of your love for LFC.
So Rafa buy Keane and for the love of Mike play 2 up front. Rotate whoever the hell else you want but leave the forward line alone.
Have to agree with you there frosty, i really, really hope he plays two upfront if he arrives.
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martin
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I wouldnt get carried away with the thoughts of Torres and Keane scoring 50 goals between them though. Of course with both players scoring records the potential is there for that and more but 50 is alot. I just feel Keane could possibly give a whole new dimension to our attack.
Understand what you're saying but last years combined totals equal more than that so fingers crossed eh?!
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ST. Chris
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Hmmm, we seem to be slowly becoming one of Englands most hated clubs it seems, by our own countrymen that is. I'm not sure what the feeling was in the 70's and 80's but is this just what happens when we become a genuine contender?
I'm speaking of course in relation to Levy's outburst after the O'Neil saga.
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the dude abides
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It's ok Dude, I respect your right to have an opinion and all, and it does make it interesting if it remains civil thus maintaining longevity in our posts! absolutely, Martin! I think the thing is that if you remember how you felt about King Kenny in his pomp, well that's how I feel about Steven Gerrard. I'll understand if you go nuts with me comparing the 2 and you are in a better position to compare them as I wasn't really old enough to appreciate him then, although I have seen videos, but nevertheless it is how i feel so forgive me if the keys start tapping when I hear someone who laments his existence at LFC. The same age roughly as Stevie, I've grown up absolutely loving watching the guy play and I can't forget the times where he has brought us back from the brink of despair and been instrumental in those latter wins. It is a simple, objective fact that there wouldn't be a 2005 CL trophy or FA Cup in the cabinet had it not been for Stevie G. Edward, no offence intended mate, but you say the jury's out until we win the league but who can forget the goal against olympiakos or that against west ham which were as crucial as they could be. If Torres scores 30 goals a season until the day he leaves and we don't win the league, does that mean the jury's still out on him as well?
It is my opinion and we'll leave it at that but for me he is the greatest player to have donned a reds shirt this era, even better than 'god' - Robbie, and I can't begin to describe how much I loved him!
you've brought up a very salient point here, re Stevie being to you, what King Kenny was to reds fans in another era. See, that's the difference that younger fans don't appreciate. King Kenny was never put on a high pedestal back then, and praised to the rafters, to the detriment of other players in the team. You played for the shirt back then. You were one part of the team unit. Bob Paisley would always stop interviewers who tried to bring up individual performances. It was a team game, as Bob would say. Same with Bill Shankly. It was a sea of red thing.....indeed Bill would often compare football to socialism, "The socialism I believe in is everybody working for the same goal and everybody having a share in the rewards. That's how I see football, that's how I see life." Everyone had their part to play. No one was any bigger or more important than anyone else. no one was allowed to get too big for their boots. Egos were very quickly kept in check. The club was always far far bigger than any individual employee. Sadly, Liverpool (and football as a whole) in the modern era, is a big business/corporate affair. It is capitalism with a capital C. I cannot imagine what Bill or Bob would make of the modern game. And that's the era that I come from. That's the mindset that I come from.
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